MEMBER MEETING – March 16, 2022 2:30 – 3:50 PM VIA ZOOM
YouTube Link: https://youtu.be/8jNwy2p2niA Length: 01:26:55 HR
Kathleen Nicholas – Sterling Fire
Tim Lindsay – Independent
Steve Landree – Pacific Coast Fire
Kane Wyatt – Cantec Fire
Eric Lindquist – Cascade Fire
Murray Enders – Troy Life
Gord Miller – Northfort Fire
Lisa Smirfitt – Pacific Coast Fire
Rob Sonier – 4 Seasons Fire
Tony Godwin – Senez Consulting
Jamie Surry – Samson Fire
Kathy Ferguson – Office of Fire Commissioner
Candace Whitney – Saanich School District
- Welcome & Introductions
- Adoption of February 2022 Minutes
- Financial Update
- Induction of Lifetime Member – Tim Lindsay
CHAIR: Murray Ender
Adoption of February 2022 Minutes:
1st & 2nd: Steve Landree and Eric Lindquist. Unanimous.
Balance as of Dec. 31, 2021 – $1,446.02
Balance as of March 15, 2022 – $2,562.16
Induction of Lifetime Membership
Tim Lindsay, long time supporter, former Owner of Cantec, and inspiration and founding Member of VIFPA. Unanimous! Congratulations Tim!
Election of Board
Gord Miller – Northfort Fire, Cowichan Valley
Kathleen Nicholas – Sterling Fire, Victoria
Jamie Surry – Samson Fire, Parksville
Eric Lindquist – Cascade Fire, Sooke
Steve Landree – Pacific Coast Fire, Victoria
After AGM Meeting
- Kathy Ferguson
- Mike Staples – Victoria Electrical Inspection
Discussions this month:
1. Proper testing of pull stations
See Zoom Meeting posted on YouTube. https://youtu.be/8jNwy2p2niA
CAN/ULC-S536 – 6.7.2. Manual Stations.
22.214.171.124. Each manual station shall be tested by actuating the device as intended.
Intention is to do a functional test, not just lower the door and flip the switch. No need to break the glass rod, just remove it first. The pull station covers must be listed for use with the pull station to ensure that it works as installed.
Manufacturer requirement for the Edwards 270SPO pull stations is that they be tested every 6 months. Includes testing method on back of device.
2. In Suite Silencing During Testing
According to ULC S537, the 10 minutes silencing must be tested not just to ensure that the device silences, but ALSO that it re-initiates. No requirement to stand by and wait but must return to make sure it did start again at the correct time.
We looked at the S536 requirements, then the email that Kat received from Phil Gagnon at ULC stating the requirement per S536 standard.
According to him:
Confirming operation of the silence switch is a requirement as per 126.96.36.199 – E.
Confirming that the device resound after 10 minutes is also a requirement as per 188.8.131.52.
As per 184.108.40.206 Each enabled function/feature of the field device shall be tested and annunciation confirmed while connected to the control unit or transponder.
The technician does not have to wait by the device for ten minutes, he can move on to test other devices, he just have to return after 10 minutes and ensure that the device rei-initiated.
We then looked at the difference between the wording between S536 and S537, where -37 6.10.2. makes it explicit that the confirmation of re-initiation in not more that 10 minutes is required, while -36 does not include it as all, except in the 220.127.116.11. requirement that all enabled functions be confirmed.
Kat will send a write up to both Kathy Ferguson, Office of Fire Commissioner, and to ULC Interpretation Committee for formal interpretation. Kathy will take that to their Codes group for discussion as well. (Bob on leave right now…)
3. Fire Department Connection Signage Requirements – Victoria
NFPA 13-13. Eric says that your sprinkler company can get that made up for the building. Maybe the sprinkler company should be looking for/making sure that the signage and brass caps are all in place for FDC’s on an annual basis. Tim shared that an insurance company in Quebec in the early 2000’s managed to subrogate against a sprinkler company because incorrect or non-existent signage was on a building, which led to the fire department not being able to connect properly and extensive damage to the building.
Chief Swan is in for Esquimalt and Haida has gone back to North Vancouver.
Fire Smoke Damper Group – coming together. Chris Caddell leading.
A little headway on that, but with Steve Landree on Board now, maybe we’ll make more headway.
Great to have someone who wants to encourage participation!
Next Executive Meeting
New Board plus Tim & Murray to discuss transition. Friday, March 18 at 3:00 PM
Conclusion: 3:50 PM
NEXT MEETING: WEDNESDAY, APRIL 13, 2022